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What to know when installing MU next to a single install? (21 posts)

  1. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Among the plethora of brain power in this forum, what are the principles that I should paying attention to when trying to install MU beside an already installed single-user 2.7 edition in the same directory?

    Thanks for your help,
    Martin

  2. Klark0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    They can't be in the same directory. Other than that there's nothing else to worry about. Install as would normally.

  3. andrea_r
    Moderator
    Posted 13 years ago #

    If MU is in a subfolder of the single WP, it will read the single WP config's file.

    Gotta disable it for 5 mintues while you run the install.

  4. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Thank you so much. One more question: the folder that I have the present single installation in is called 'diary'. I'm assuming then that I can install MU in that directory in a subfolder called MU as long as I disable the single install first?

  5. andrea_r
    Moderator
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Call it whatever you want. :)

    You don't have to disable the other one first, just as soon as you put the MU files there, it will act like it can't find the MU stuff it needs. then you can disable the other one when you're ready.

  6. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    O.K., I'm just banging my head against the wall here. Three times now I've loaded all the files into a root folder called 'Blogs' and have carefully setup everything only to have the installer fail and issue error messages like 404 and 500. It can't seem to find things that are obviously there and in the last failure referred me to line 457 in its inability to find its way. I've opened all permissions. I'm keeping it separate from my single-install and every time it fails, I'm forced to delete everything on the server and complete reload all files. Yuk. Could this get any more kludgier? After an error why do you have to do all the work of going back to square one?

    I'm not sure what help can be given but if there is any I'd love to hear it.

    Thanks,
    Martin

  7. andrea_r
    Moderator
    Posted 13 years ago #

    When you load the files, you're just transferring them via ftp right?

    And you are NOT editing wp-config? In MU, it does that bit itself.

    Otherwise, got a link?

  8. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Andrea:

    Yes, via ftp. No, as directed I've not touched the wp-config. I've tried to follow the letter of the law but have met with resistance. Files are located at http://www.freaksofnurture.com/Blogs/

    I haven't, as yet, reloaded all the files but take a look under the hood and give me your assessment. I'd deeply appreciate it.

    Martin

  9. andrea_r
    Moderator
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Blogs/ results in a 404, so I tried /blog/ (lowercase b) and got a 500.

    What's the folder permissions?

    (you should meet my mom. she puts the fun in dysfunctional. ;) )

  10. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    I'll delete everything and reload all the files from scratch and then I can give you the high sign and you can look again. I set the permissions on that particular folder to complete access so you should be able to get in there. But once the errors come from a failed installation, even I can't get to it from the web any longer (only the error messages). I'll clean it all up and give you the high sign later today and then you can see something.

    (As an aside, it's remarkable the many people that I have either told about or have come to my site and commented about some wacky family members and strange relations. Love to meet your mom! Mine is quite the piece of work, as well.)

  11. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Alright, I've completely reloaded all files and we're starting from scratch. The install page should come up now when putting in the http://www.freaksofnurture.com/blogs URL.

    Thanks.

  12. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Here's just another point I'm wondering about: When setting permissions I set a 777 on the 'blogs' folder and the wp_content folder only...not the public_html folder which houses everything. Should I temporarily be doing that and then switch it back?

  13. andrea_r
    Moderator
    Posted 13 years ago #

    "Should I temporarily be doing that and then switch it back? "

    Yep. Although upload some things and double-check. you can see the install screen now, so run it.

  14. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Well, now all I'm getting is the 500 error, even after reloading everything so I'm going to the tech support on my host because this is getting ridiculous. I'll let you know how it all turns out.

    Thanks.

  15. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Andrea:

    I went and got your e-book and you were mentioning installing it in a temporary public_html. Does that mean that I can't install it in a sub-folder (in this case 'blogs') under public_html?

  16. freakmaster
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    I guess I have the bottom line answer from my host's tech support:

    "Unfortunately, Wordpress MU is not supported on our shared hosting plans as it requires creation of wildcard subdomains. If you require this, you may like to consider our Dedicated and VPS plans.

    You may, however, create subdomains on your account and install Wordpress individually. They would need to be install into separate directories.

    I hope this helps."

    I suppose I could install multiple single user blogs, as long as they didn't exceed a handful but, other than that, it looks like I'm out of luck with MU.

    Thanks for your help.

  17. roberthq
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    If I can sot of bring this all together and get a cross reference to fill in the gaps between all the posts here...would this be the way to go?

    Ok, you have a single install of WP on the root. Rename the config on the root of the single install file to something other than what it is.

    Do the install for WPMU in a sub directory

    After the install is complete, change back the root single install to the original config name and both the single install on the root level and the sub directory install of wp as an add one domain will work together?

    I don't mind taking down my main site to install in a subdir, but what I'm worried about is some files in the root being overwritten and screwing up my single root install with the WPMU sub directory install. Can any one give me to confidence to pull this off or something I'm missing or is this it?
    Thanks for reading
    RRG

  18. tim.moore
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Robert,

    When you install WPMU, what are you giving it for a domain name?

    You have a single user WordPress install in root, so you gave it the domain name domain.com (for example).

    If you install WPMU in a subdirectory, are you giving it the domain name domain.com/heresWPMU?

    Tim

  19. andrea_r
    Moderator
    Posted 13 years ago #

    "what I'm worried about is some files in the root being overwritten and screwing up my single root install with the WPMU sub directory install. "

    WPMU will not overwrite anything in the root. You don't have to remove the other config file, you can just tell WPMU not to look for it.

    http://wpmututorials.com/installation2/installing-in-a-subfolder/

    "and both the single install on the root level and the sub directory install of wp as an add one domain will work together? "

    Same as if it were two separate WP installs on different domains. If it doesn't work, then (like I said in the other thread) it's your host. on some servers MU gets picky over this kind of setup. there's no way to tell in advance.

  20. roberthq
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago #

    Tim and Andrea,
    Thanks for getting back. I had a busy weekend with the ASLA convention in-town this weekend.

    When you install WPMU, what are you giving it for a domain name?

    I have a single install in the root that is the main domain of my portfolio website hqprints.net. I want and own the domain to be for the MU version to be foldingsheets.com. Installing it in a folder called "foldingsheets" as I now know, won't work (with out changing the name of the config file) These two web sites are not even related and I don't want them to be. Hqprints is my portfolio site and the foldingsheets is for the kids.

    The plan is to back up and then give this a go this week. I teach and this is for high school kids (with my supervision) to learn about the blogging process with their own blog, post photos and creative writing...we start classes on Oct 5th, so I'm working at this all this week and next.

    Thanks again for reading guys...
    RRG

  21. roberthq
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago #

    I wanted to let everyone know what I learned from My WPMU and single install woes.

    With Lunarpages I was able to install and run it on a shared server. It had to be installed on the root and I did get it to install in a directory, but it just won't run correctly. So I moved my previous single install of WP to a directory and installed WPMU on the root and everything works fine.

    Hope this helps those of you trying to do something like this.
    RRG

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